Secure, confident men that are successful with women do NOT offer to rub the feet, give backrubs, hope that the woman is "over the OM" etc. etc.... TO WOMEN THAT WANT OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP. (or ones that are their friend)It is weak.
How many of you men have EVER offered to give a foot rub to a friend? You are UNDERESTIMATING women, if you believe she won't see through that nonsense.
You have been at this for what? 2-1/2 year?
What you are doing is not working.
A truly confident man would STOP putting up with a woman behaving like yours is. He would STOP making excuses and STOP trying to "figure" it all out....
A truly confident, secure man would give this type of attitude:
I am perfectly fine the way I am. I want someone who WANTS to be with me. I will not share my wife with another man,either phsyically or emotionally. Love in marriage is EXCLUSIVE. PERIOD.
And then he would do everything in his power to move on and stop any and all pursuit and this nonsense of "friendship" that is nothing more than a smokescreen and another method to win her love. Won't work.
Stop this nonsense and admit that this hasn't and isn't working. Two years is more than enough time. You seem to be doing the same things you are giving Kevin 2x4's for.
Time to move on.... Chasing in any form (inclouding the friendship routine) doesn't work.
What works is truly letting them see and FEEL that you ARE and HAVE moved on.
Gucci, I hear what you're saying and I agree with you. But... (and you knew it was coming).
Stuck seems to be stuck on his wife. He loves her, doesn't want to give up.
I'm a big believer in attraction, creating attraction, what kills attraction and confidence is a huge attraction switch, if you're confident, you are attractive to everyone around you, it's the vibe you put out.
Yes you're right, he could quit - that's definitely an option.
But it seems that lately he has become "friends" with her again and that would seem to suggest that he is making some type of progress with her.
I agree with you, they're living in limbo but if he is accurate that they're more friendly now, it seems that whatever he has done recently has improved the mood.
I'm not saying that he needs to supplicate her, I'm dead-set against that. Buying someone is manipulating them, true dat! And you are right, women see right through it. I'm not telling him to buy her dinner, presents, nothing at all. All I'm saying is for him to be confident & secure in himself and show some interest in his wife because there is a huge difference between a wimpy wuss who begs & pleads for his wife to love him & take him and a guy who is confident, secure in himself & his life and showing attraction in his wife. Two different dynamics, two different results. He's not begging her to stay anymore, he's not begging for her to change her mind about him, he relaxed, stopped pursuing. But I think to create some energy he will have to put a little in, push/pull, show some interest and then step back a bit, show some more and then stop. Create some light sexual tension, some curiousity, some fun, relax the moods & mindsets of the people involved.
I also believe that physical touch between the two of them in a non-sexual manner might generate a response in her that she isn't aware of. You never know, she may miss it but have so much pride that she doesn't want to admit it. You never know, she may enjoy it, when is the last time she rec'd a footrub from stuck?
We don't any of this.
Time to switch things up, generate some curiosity, push/pull.
Women like the attention of confident men, if stuck is truly secure & confident in himself, he can show a bit of attention to her without acting needy, insecure, wimpy, wussy and if she says NO to him, he's secure & confident in himself that his self-esteem is still high and it isn't his loss, it's her loss at that point.
It's always easy to give up, and maybe he's not ready yet. I'm a firm believe that you can rekindle attraction between two people when it has been gone for quite some time, you just have to know what to do.