If I might weigh in here, I think we're going from the sublime to the ridiculous. First, my take on WAW's question was and is that it was rhetorical - she knows that I've been introspecting: she's seen me reading, she's asked about what I do in therapy, she's even (by her own admission) snuck a look at my notebook and journal. No, this was more like one of those Hollywood Spit-Take "I don't get its!"

On rescuing - why do "some" (as they like to say on Fox News when they mean "we") do so much infantilizing of the Wayward? "Take the training wheels off" -- for crying out loud.

There's a world of difference between not allowing someone to fail absolutely and not allowing someone to fail.

But I'll take all the advice I can get, and I'll go the whole "fall to the bottom of the well" enchilada when someone can answer this question persuasively:

2 weeks after she moves out, WAW will have custody of the children. How will a devastated, alone, miserable, suffering WAW be good for my children?

Discuss amongst yourselves.