Hi guys,
I had another convo with H, on the phone this time. I am calmly and slowly letting it all out. I dont get any answers but at least I feel I get a chance to "free up" my mind a bit.

Today I talked to him about vacation and all that and I ended up telling him what we do is our choice. There is no "it happened" or "I cant" etc etc. He started telling me how he needs the amount of money he is making now to live by. When I asked him what for since he doesnt spend it he said for security. The amount of money he would be making form his one job would be more that I have to spend including child support, so I mentioned that and he said "I cant live with these standards". That got me going and told him if these are the standards me and his kids live by, it cant be that bad. He insisted and after a while he sort of agreed it is a mind thing and he really does not need both jobs since he admitted he doesnt even spend half of what he has left after he pays CS.

I told him I think job is an excuse. I told him if he would agree to a marriage/R like the one he seems to want to have with me: with no tenderness, ML, talks, time etc etc. He didnt answer. About ML he said "its not me, it's the way he is". I told him I dont need a brother, I have one and he doesnt need a sister. I asked him if he is afraid to let go not to regret it later. He said he is thinking about it. I told him he already took that risk once. What is the problem now? No OW waiting?

I told him I cant go on like this and we should start taking the kids on the weekends separately. I also told him I dont think it is wise for him to join us during vacation. He agreed not to. I told him I wished he would object and give me a [censored] reason to believe he wants to be with me. He said he had offered before to go together as part of the effort. I then told him this is no effort and he shouldnt fool himself. He and I, both, dont stretch ourselves at all. For myself I can only insist I show patience far beyond the point I thought I was capable for.

I wasnt DBing but I was talking with no emotion and detached. So, I did use the "you" carefully in sentences like "you need to realise that if we were ever going to make it, it had to be an effort with actions, consistent and outside of our comfort zone". I brought up examples and things he had agreed to do that we never managed to.

He listen, never objected and mostly agreed. He mentioned for the first time the possibility of renting an apartment which is something he refused to do in the past and very telling IMO.

We are heading steadily towards the D and although I keep throwing him rope to (hang himself) hold on to, he doesnt respond.

I felt so used again especially when he talked about money and what he thinks is acceptable for a living and when I told him what I have available for the 3 of us and paying 700 euros per month to the babysitter and pension for the kids (which is more than half than what he gives me) he sounded confused and a bit guilty. I asked him for a loan to pay my cc and pay him back in monthly payments by reducing CS, in order to save me some interest. He agreed with no hesitation. I only did that AFTER I told him we need to keep distances from now on so I can never be accused of taking advantage of the "reconciliation" process.

Still no passion, no firm oppinion, no action plan other than what I suggest. I suggested we proceed with separating our lives which is not going to be difficult at this point.

Back to being single. Alone and lonely. But I can honestly say I see no use of delaying this anymore.
K


Me&H:42
S11&D10
Bomb 5/2007-Sep 11/2007
Reconc.November 2009