Thanks for the reality check. You are absoulutely right, I need to maintain (and rebuild) my dignity. I know how absolutely pitiful I felt when I was literally begging for my marriage, and now that I have the blessing of time to look back on it, I cannot debase myself to do that again...for myself that is, I just cannot allow that sort of behavior because it is not healthy for me.
I just loved that bit about "We are going to shine our light despite the darkness that our H's have created".
Awhile back I asked him about the Catholic Retrouville program specifically, and he said no. That's another reason why I don't want to aske him about any other workshops at all, I want our MC to, because I fear he will just reject this "Imago Therapy" one too, because the ME weekend was not helpful for us (because of the fact that they only used one type of communication device, and my H just couldn't do it). I am excited, my book about the Imago therapy , "Get the Love You Deserve" by Harville Hendrix arrived at the local library yesterday per my request. I cracked it open and began to read it. It is SO what we need right now, that that is why I was willing to sacrifice some part of the divorce Montana, that's how much I'd be willing to bet this would help us. But like you said, giving that concession up would be too much like groveling for me, so I need to just trust in God, that if it is meant to be he will have our MC bring it up to my H, because I'm not going to bring it up only to be shot down once more.
Me: 36 H: 34 M: 1 yr T: 2 yrs D: filed by H 5/21/09, served 06/08/09, first court date for "maintenance" as well as a plea to restart Marriage Counseling and attend a Marriage workshop 8/24