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In men, estrogens have no known function. An unusually high level, however, may reduce sexual appetite, cause erectile difficulties, produce some breast enlargement, and result in the loss of body hair in some men.

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Well I had a great weekend. It was busy but fun. I'm finally feeling a bit better. I had a cold or allergies....something, but it's on it's way out.

I picked up the kids from daycare. My daughter told me she went to the zoo yesterday. Apparently my ex must have taken the loser a long.

The very next thing that comes out of her mouth is " Is "OM" my new daddy now."

I'll admit that was a sucker punch that I didn't see coming. I tried my best to explain things without going into too much detail.

This is the same guy she has been seeing since last July/August.

It's time for me to move on. I wish them well.

I'm still trying to figure out what else to say to my daughter.


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Hey t!! Nice of you to visit us. Ewww about the "new dad". Don't know what to say about that. I would say mom should correct that confusion, but we all know how that goes...


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Mom isn't going to do anything but add to the confusion.

On one hand, it's a joke. This douche bag (80's term) smile is a total loser.

On the other hand, it's tough when it comes to the kids.


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Oh, I know she's not going to do anything. Only if she was in the non crazy world like us. (relatively speaking).

I know it hurts. My d has mentioned "gf" several times and how she bought her a doll and was so nice to her... Funny since there is supposed to be no contact. J almost peed his pants when she started in about her at the ballgame. lol


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Well I had been going back and forth, on what to do about this whole OM new daddy thing. Really there isn't much I CAN do other than voice my concerns. The opportunity presented itself today for me to do just that.

My ex called while I was picking up the kids. She wanted to know if I would watch the kids tomorrow night for her. At first I said yes, I was a little distracted because I was talking to the daycare lady. I remembered I have an appointment at 5:30 tomorrow, I said we could loosely plan it if she could have the kids here by 6:45-7:00pm.

I also told her that her stuff would be in the driveway and if it was raining it would have a tarp over it......and then I broke it down. I don't care how this affects my ex either.

I said listen, I don't care what YOU do. You could travel to timbuktoo (??) and get married tomorrow. I don't care, but when it comes to these kids, you need to be a mom and handle your business. I said if your going to bring OM's around our daughter you need to be responsible and answer the questions she has. She is a smart little girl and you need to talk with her.

I told her you don't have to go in to detail, but you need to handle it, because when I hear her say "is OM gonna be my new daddy?" It tells me that this is not happening right now. Stop being selfish and self centered and be a mom.

I was very firm, she sounded like a mouse. It took her off guard. She tried to tell me that she asks her the same questions, and I said, I have not brought anyone around her.

I haven't felt this good about an interaction in quite a while, not because of the fact I was telling her like it is, just the way I worded things the tone of my voice and the confidence I had. She barely said a word and when she did it was so quiet I could hardly hear her. I know this surprised her, it was not my intent. This has nothing to do with her and everything to do with my kids.

I have never seen my daughter act the way she was acting last night, and no matter what she deserves BOTH parents taking good care of her and looking out for her best interests.


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T, good for you. I see nothing wrong with what you told her. It's the truth and you are their Dad. I know it must have stung to hear your daughter ask you that. Shame on your ex.

You should feel good about it. You were straightforward, honest and confident.

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Good job!


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If we have an interaction with our WAS and we walk away feeling good or empowered then I believe we did the right thing
authenticity is the one thing DB lacks
probably b/c the WAS can t hear that
but sometimes they do
sometimes the listen
sometimes not
but at least we can be real and stop walking on eggshells
b/c that doesnt work anyway
peace


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bomb 2/07 IDLYA
D final 3 /09
M ow D ow
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