I believe in natural consequences. My Spouse left me for reasons only her and I should know about. Even then she left me for reasons only she knows about. She made her choices. I made my choices. I am exactly where I am today based off of every choice I have made.

If saving you R with spouse is important, DO NOT DO ANYTHING that will HURT or push spouse farther away. Patience and forgiveness are your tools. Michelle has great tools. Many other people have great tools. Find the tools that work for YOU and use them.

"What is best for my kids is best for me"
Amor Fati
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