I'm just curious if perhaps, the shame or exposure can sort of get someone out of the fog and to the table and where you go from there makes the difference.
I'm not advocating, just interpreting. And I think this is a worthwhile topic.
I think that shame can rouse someone to some sort of objectivity. Once the person is seeing themselves and their behavior as destructive, hurtful and perhaps embarrassing, they are back in something closer to reality. The LBS pushing the shame, using it as a tool in the R is the kiss of death. I see both sides here and I bet like most things in life, depends on the sitch.