stuck... overall I think citygirl has it right on. Wish I had had her advice myself back then.

you do have to do some detachment and self work and let your wife to do her own. if she comes back to you on her own then good; but in the meanwhile you have to do all you can for you.

I think the whole 'changing' thing and doing the 180's and stuff, that can only go on for so long before you get burnt out from not taking care of yourself. in the end you come to apoint where you think 'im making all the effort and they are not'. and then you must decide: do i keep going or just begin taking up the loose ends of my life? its a very individual decision but no marrage can work or be fixed with only one side...

looking back on mistakes is something we all do but the truth is sometimes you cant change them, or the change is too late. all you can do is take the knowledge with you into the next relationship should there be one.

i dont know. it might be best to take a break and do the friend thing for a while, demonstrate the man you are thru that medium with truly no expectations; get to know one another again. in my opinion thats almost impossible to do with another person in volved of they were the reason for the break.

When you're down to nothing, God is up to something.