I'm sick of this. Today...D6 said to me "dad...mom said you're not allowed to put cream on my vagina".(Referring to Desenex and Balmex when she has burning or a rash') FIB
Guardian Ad Litem dude.... this is stupid already. You have to send this nut job a message that you will not tolerate her messing mentally with your kids. This is just nuts. Your a fricken doctor for gods sakes.....
Arrgghhh! FIB, you need to find out what you could do about this legally because she has gotten way out of hand now.
Tell your lawyer that while you understand that he wants to get you out of this quickly and all that, you cannot allow her to play mind games with little children regarding their father. That could have lifelong ramifications. You are paying him.
Come on FIB, rattle some cages. This is stuff that is going to really damage them and their relationship with you for years to come.
Time to take off the gloves, I think. Make some calls, write some letters and dont give up until you are satisfied that you have done everything you could to stop her.
I will post to you separately about the "Mommy said" comment that d6 made. Suffice to say BE CAREFUL...that's a red flag for what I've feared as a L.
Agreeing with Kerry and Ian but am not sure why Kerry says your L isn't experienced with men. What's YOUR Take on the L? I am confused honestly about why she says you'll never get a div if you move out BUT I DO get why you should stay (and what a nightmare it is as well. Does your L KNOW What the hell is going on with stbxw?)
Also what happens with the LG and counselling now? Will the kids have to go BEFORE the next court appearance in August? What is holding EVERYTHING up? What is the delay?
You both want a divorce, you know what the property amounts are (via the forensics) and you know that some sort of shared custody will occur. WTH else is there to decide now? Bedtimes and how many vegetables will be served?
Dear GOD LET IT END!!!
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M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
Hi all...you know....it amazes...STILL...her behavior.
I'm not sure if it's even worth posting anymore. You really can't make this up. I'm not sure if I should post this stuff anymore because it is now a daily occurrence and it is NOT my intention to go backward.
Yesterday, my STBXW tells my son that she wants him to go with her for a walk. He doesn't want to go. He tells her this. In fact, he wants to pitch to me out in front of the house. I've been trying to teach him of late to 'let his feelings be known' since he is being p-whipped and ordered around by her.
It's starts to drizzle outside, so, she backs down from the walk until it stops. S8 grabs his glove and asks me to go out with him for a catch/to pitch until it stops raining. Next thing you know, STBXW opens the front door and yells out:
"S8....are you ditching me now?"..as if this little 8 year old boy was her best friend canceling a date.
Wha????
I was catching...stood up...and turned to her, "He's not ditching you XXX...he's PITCHING a few balls. He'll be in in a few minutes"
SShitt....now..S8 walks up to me and asks, "what's ditching mean dad?".
The stupid stuff is now happening everyday. There is an old joke: "did you know that saliva is poisonous to your health but only if swallowed in small amounts over long periods of time."
She is poisoning him. Who did I marry? FIB
Me 55; XW 47; 2 kids (S13, D11) Bomb 05/19/06 Original thread http://tinyurl.com/yg2ou2t Last anniversary 04/25/10, Divorced 5/12/10 Status: Loving father of 2 beautiful children;
FIB - look for her to bring up parental alienation even though it was your S8 having his free will to decide what he wanted to do.
It hurts to see the poisoning.
25 - I was referring to the quote from FIB's L that seemed to indicate that she had a bad record or lack of confidence or no "end game" plan:
Quote:
L: FIB...most of my men are thrown out of the house or spend a night in jail. You are still in and see your kids everday. I don"t wantyou to be thrown out. Don't nitpick and do the best you can. I know I am keeping you there under difficult circumstances but if you get thrown out, you will never get divorced.
I'd pretend I thought it was a joke b/c as a mom, I could say something like that to my kids and mean it as a joke. (Yes, FIB, I assume the tone she used did not sound like a joke or you would have thought more about it. But this is a small thing.)
I get that you dont' think she meant it as one BUT I swear I've used the words "Dumping your mom just for some ice cream/Justin timberlake tickets? lakers game??" and totally meant it jokingly with my kids I mean who can compete with that? I was fine with it.
And a "walk" is not as fun as catch and she knows this...she really MAY have been trying to make a lame joke). Assuming she was not kidding and was turning it into a contest, must your son know that? If it were not you FIB speaking, I would actually think that you were making a mountain out of a molehill on this one occasion. But I know your history and even if you are a bit too sensitive, given her past actions, I concur with your take for the most part.
Still, by saying "She was kidding" it could let her off the hook without making her look bad b/c this is NOT about "winning" -- but having some peace and it would not have "cost" you anything, but more importantly, it'd reveal how crazy she sounds without being confrontational and starting a fight, AND it protects your son a little longer.
Just a thought.
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M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
She was serious...stood on the stoop staring at him...intimidating would be an understatement. FIB
Me 55; XW 47; 2 kids (S13, D11) Bomb 05/19/06 Original thread http://tinyurl.com/yg2ou2t Last anniversary 04/25/10, Divorced 5/12/10 Status: Loving father of 2 beautiful children;
She was serious...stood on the stoop staring at him...intimidating would be an understatement. FIB
What can you say to that? GEEZ almighty...(I know you're Jewish but this is where I have say JESUS CHRIST!!) I don't get it. Yeah I know she's vindictive. Check that. But "MAKING" him choose between a boring as hell "walk" and playing catch with you which YOU had first arranged....is just crazy and NOT in HER interest either. What is this? Is she testing him? Is she guilting him? WHY?
What does SHE think YOU have done to HER that HE would know? I mean, it's not as if you had an A and your s8 saw OW....so she's forcing him to be "loyal" to her...or that you hit her and now she wants to remind him that men don't hit women and that they do what women tell them...????WTH??? What was HER goal? Okay, to hurt you...check that. But she was such a heavy about it, sounds like. So she doesn't know how SHE will LOOK in YOUR SON'S EYES? How can she not see that SHE IS GOING TO LOSE HIM ALL ON HER OWN?
The only thing that comes to mind is that she is transferring some anger she has for you, ONTO HIM? B/C he's male? Is that it? Oh God...please let me be wrong...
((SIGHS)) HUGS!! yada yada
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M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016