Mach: 1.When I stated everything, I'm speaking about my family, that is everything to me.
2.Gonna lose myself too? No, do you think that because I have put faith and trust in my wife's decision I am giving up on myself?
I don't know ? YOU are the one that said everything, I would conclude that everything includes..... you.
3.Two hour guilt filled conversation is due to the fact that I'm human and I do fall back.
No, a fallback is a few lines that make you feel better to say and she feels pressure from you. A two hour conversation, which you admit was an..exhaustive argutalk . At some point in two hours, I would think that you would recognize what that was.
4.kiss her a$$, Yeah I don't think so,it sounds to me like you're doing quite a bit of assuming here, and actually she was right much of the time.
Am I assuming here?
5.Fighting, I'm not fighting anything right now,
Once again, YOU said "perhaps she was the one who was right in all of this and I should just quit fighting it" I'm not really making what you said up....One has to be fighting something in order to suggest they stop.
at this moment I feel good about this decision for the first time in a long time I actually feel focused, and as far as rereading the books go, you can read all you want but the real common denominator here is common sense, respect love and kindness, the books are great reminders for all these things, but the real power is in applying them.
And you applied them with a two hour ...exhaustive argutalk ?
BTW Mach, you sound a little chippy today, are you getting enough sleep?
Chippy....Hmm. No, I'm not chippy......yet.
Sleep ? I'll sleep when I'm dead, I sleep just enough to let the coffee rest.
Look LG.....This path is hard enough to walk without all of this....
I'm really NOT coming down on you. Everything you said is great. And I do not know your situation any better than you know mine. I don't live your life.
All I'm saying is that we can ALL do better than we have in the past.
And if we collectively cannot admit that we have made mistakes, and use that to grow, then we are what we have been accused of.
I CHOOSE to read everything I can about this path we are ALL on, so that I can be informed enough to know the difference, cause my old way sure didn't work......
Yours ?
For the record ? I think you are handling things well. This takes time to heal these wounds which run deep enough for them to want to be anywhere else but with their family.
I'm not really tryin to pi$$ you off , I'm just tryin to get you to a better place with you.
Look, One thing I have learned in all of this is....If someone tells you something and it stings a little, gives you that burn going up your spine...That is usually a clue that there is truth to what they are saying. Some people can take that and use it for growth and knowledge. Some people don't have the fortitude to look within themselves, so they turn away from the statement cause it couldn't possibly be true.
