I don't really have feedback Hopeful, other than validate. That is what I read about all the time.
I thought this was an interesting article that I found on another post...and it seems appropriate for this thread...it SERIOUSLY hit home with me...and the whole martyrdom thing we touched on here. Some of you have probably read this already but I thought I would share....
http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi3600_state.html
...praying for us all!!!