mdoodles, you know we are in the same position so I don't even have to tell you I understand. What I can say is that these guys are so right but it is very difficult. I'm struggling with it myself. I think we both know what we need to do its just doing it, crossing that threshold per se is what's hard. For me I struggle with being consistent. A whole month will go by without me being physical with H and then I give in. So keep struggling and it will get better. Just try baby steps and then it gets better. When I first learned of H and ow I use to say constantly I want my M to work, and I still do. But I profess that motto less and I think that was a good first step for me. Now, there are many days when I feel like it will be alright for me if H and I end it. I will be terribly lonely and will probably always love him but I will be alright. It gets better, there will be fewer and fewer bad days.