Thanks Snodderly. I am terrible at expressing what I want to say/ask sometimes. I did read and I read alot still. My memory isnt what it use to be...honestly I cant remember anything anymore. I really need to get it checked probably. I just think its all I been through. What I was trying to say is, I heard somewhere that the ow/gf slows the progress down. Thats really what I was trying to ask. I know its part of the progress but someone once said that it makes their journey slower. AND, I dont think you are being harsh at all. By the way, do you know how to list all my threads? I would like to so I can go back and read some of what I wrote, when I first started asking questions.