BeingMe, your totally spot on... and yea everything he did and said was SOOO juvenile and teen angst, I KNEW it was coming alll from her, not from him. you could just tell. it was all very immature and really spiteful - it was like he would stop at NOTHING to prove his never ending 'love' for her. And yes I do think she thought it was "fun" and a ego boost to steal away a middle aged man. I know that if she had not had support from her parents in doing this, it would never have gotten as far as it did; they are reprehensible. I think they thought it was 'cute' and in their minds, I was a terrible person and the kids were ungrateful, so why not he move over there and spend the rest of his days looking after their beloved daughter??? blech!

It does disgust me - he tried to play it down to me telling me he wanted to 'help' her and that I 'couldnt stop him' from 'helping' her. When I asked, what FROM? he wuold not elaborate; apparently helping her involved a lot of use of his penis, funny thing that.

I know he was ashamed bc he wuoldnt admit it to ANYONE not even his mother at first, he didnt admit it to HER until I outright told her and forced the issue thinking she'd be of some help (hah!) she actually had the hide to say to me, "what do you care, you dont want him". UM HELLO ITS INCEST??? I just stared at her. I thought I knew that woman I guess NOT.

I would LOVE to get my back child support I am owed 14 thousand now but i seriously dont see myself ever getting it. He is determined not to pay me any. TO him, I am the problem an I am a terrible person and I 'turned his kids against him'. He even once had the sickness of mind to say to me "you couldnt get osmeone that young". um, no, but then I wouldnt WANT to now would I.... duh.

His MLC borders on mental illness; he said such insane things to me like that he "needed to be around young people, not guys but girls" and that "I need to live with a young woman". w t h. He admitted to me he'd taken drugs over there - I was INSANELY shocked, this man HATES drugs and has never so much as smoked a SINGLE bit of weed in his ENTIRE life - hes always been VERY judgmental of that kind of thing - and next thing he comes back 20kg lighter and telling me he needs to smoke weed - expensive weird hard to get here weed - to help him sleep! I think that was about the only time I absolutely denied what he was saying - it shocked me WAY more than the affair!

sadly, I think my ex took more than weed over there. When I had some physological counselling in the beginning my counsellor gently suggested to me he thought drugs had been involved - this was before I even knew. given his appearance and behaviour when he returned I think so; he was forgetful and locked his keys in his car time and time again, he said weird stuff, he made up stories, he freely ADMITTED to me he had lied to his OW and her family "more times than I can remember". I have to face the fact, his brain has fried... and hes not just never coming home; hes dead.

When you're down to nothing, God is up to something.