Answering a question that Coach asked me on SmileysPerson's thread. The topic was How and Why reading R books puts pressure on a WAS.
I copied it here rather than continue to Hijack SP's thread.
Originally Posted By: Thinker
Originally Posted By: Coach
Quote:
"You are NOT LISTENING to me! You keep reading this "psychobabble" and trying to change and do things to fix it but IT CAN'T BE FIXED. I keep telling you that." etc etc.
"I understand what you said about IT. Me trying to grow isn't about IT, my reading is about me becoming the best man I can."
Don't back down off of doing something healthy for you. Listen to what your W says and refute some of her "psychobabble." Why do you think she really gets upset at you?
Good point Coach - have to think about that one. Maybe by keeping the books out of sight and not reading them in front of my W I am just avoiding conflict. Maybe I should be upfront and make my W deal with the fact that I am reading them.
Once again that fine line...what is too much pressure on the WAW?
The Question that struck me after reading this a few times was "Why do you think she really gets upset at you?"
Pondering -- I think there are several possible answers:
1) R Books == Pressure from H: Several years ago when we first started talking about our M and first started seeing a C, I started buying and reading R books. At that point it was Mort Fertel and Harley's "His Needs Her Needs". They are pretty prescriptive - ie in order to fall back in love you each need to do a, b, c, etc.
At this time I DID put lots of pressure on her to read the books and I DID try to use the books to show that I was right. Both wrong things to do, I know, but I can't go back and change that now.
2) R Books == expectation to work on M: She knows that R books present the view that "A M can be saved and you can fix it by doing x, y, z". Her interpretation of me reading an R book is that I am going to then try to do x, y, and z to try to fix the M, and she does not want that pressure.
3) (really starting to mind read) R books == scary changes in H and fear the W will get left: I think she sees the changes that I am making and is confused and scared by some of them. I am mind reading here, but she may see the books as a problem and something that she can't control. In fact, she may be starting to be afraid that I am going to grow, and grow away from her, and that I may be the one who leaves her - a big change from her initial fantasies.
This third view point may explain / be bolstered by her recent sudden irrational fear that I was about to come out of the closet, declare myself to be homosexual, and leave her for another man. I am REALLY not sure where that came from, but she was suddenly really very afraid of it. When I reassured her that this was absolutely not the case she responded "Good, because if you were, that would be a deal-breaker for her in the M!"...
...That would be a deal breaker for her???? -- of course it would - by definition!! I'd be leaving her!
But I am now starting to interpret the whole thing as her building up real fears that I am growing, I am moving on, and she is the one who is going to get left.
Last edited by Thinker; 05/20/0909:20 PM.
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