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there are other approaches than DB
read tough love by james dobson..this may be the spproach you need
IN my opinion DB is for us..there is absolutely no guarantee that it will work to restore a M
it may and in many cases may not
You have to put yourself first and sometimes this may be a clearer message to get it all out in open than sugar coat it for our H
peace


married 14 years
H 42
bomb 2/07 IDLYA
D final 3 /09
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