I just want him to let go of the denial on that one and admit it. He does occasionally text me that he knows this is 'tearing Nathan up' and that it 'kills him' that the kids are hurting. But I don't know that I believe him since he doesn't change his actions...

Hi BBJ, first off I want to tell you that I am in the same predicament as you are with D8. I spoke to XW about it once and she turned it on me...apparently I was somehow encouraging this. Well, that wass the last time I ever spoke to XW about D*s feelings regarding our seperation. The latest episode was on mother's day weekend. I take it as a compliment that D8 speaks to me about those feelings.

Back to your quote above: How do you want him to let go of the denial? What would he have to do? Say to you that it is his fault that he is breaking up this beautiful family and hurting the kids beyond repair? I guarantee that even if they (WAS) believe this that they will never admit it to us. "He does not change his actons"....again what change are you expecting?