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[LitlHopeAlwys]

I just spent some time trying to read up on your thread. There is a lot going on here, and I think that you need to learn a bit more about what DBing is all about.

Before I point out some mistakes, let me first say we ALL make mistakes, and it is ok - we just need to learn from them and not make them again. When you get good advice here or look at your own posts and see where you went wrong, commit to yourself to not make the same mistake again.

Thanks X, I know I have made numerous mistakes - and when I do pick up on them I defiantly try not to make them again - but sometimes it just seems to happen. I definitely appreciate when someone points out something that I do wrong or a flaw.

Your W has shown several times that she had not closed the door.. until you start to pursue and pressure. YOU MUST STOP THIS. Go back and read your own thread, you will see exactly where W pulls away, gets angry, slams the door.. and right before that you will see your mistake. LEARN FROM THEM.

Buddy, things are not over until they are over, and your W has shown more light than many sitches you will read here, so stop obsessing on her. Man, I KNOW IT IS HARD!

I guess then i really must be blind to seeing within her actions that she hasn't closed the door yet - and I do understand how pursuing her does make her withdraw. I am finally starting to learn from all of my mistakes.

I really liked reading about her sitting with you for the ice cream. You have to let her drive on things like this, dont look at them as opportunities to try to change her mind, just enjoy and let her enjoy and let her see that she still enjoys your company - if you keep dragging her back into the ugly R discussions, then you are just making her see what she dosnt want.

You don't want the old M, so stop talking about it. If it helps, imagine she is someone you are not married to, and you are trying to be the kind of person she may want to date. You wouldn't ask a date about marriage and love, so dont ask her.

That was one thing that i viewed has a great time - most contact we really had with each other in a long time - not once did we argue/fight, and there wasn't any talk of R/M - just general life and what has been going on at each others jobs.

And you are correct I don't want the old M back, I want one that is like starting from new and much better then the old.

Hang in there buddy, the roller coaster is brutal. But you will become better if you work at it, and no matter what you will end up ok. Work towards OK, and don't make OK dependent on W.

Rollercoaster ride indeed - still not sure what set her off on Monday being as nasty as she was and saying things are different - all she would say was that on Saturday she was just trying to be friendly, and that she does love me and doesn't want to see anything bad happen to be(ILYBNILWY).

Now today she called again at work - however after yesterday and talking to her on phone while at work (yeah tears in eyes) just like you everything makes me so emotional and feel like crying, I promised myself no more talking while at work, and have a good co-worker helping me to enforce that.

Wether I call her back later or not - that's still undecided - probably not as I have a lot to do to keep busy after work - cut lawn, ride back at least 10 miles, laundry and keep PMA.

Another thing that i have to consider is I have tickets to local AM League Baseball team on Saturday night - hoping to take S3 - not sure if I should even ask W, if she would like to go or just grab my brother or a friend to go to game.