Hey FB2, I read the book after K suggested it. I did not really get it (some may say I don't get much)...I may need to reread it. I think it is just a view on how a man can better understnd a woman. His road map if you will. I get what you are saying though....but there are tons of books to help woman be better partners. I think you jump to conclusions or come on a little strong with: "Or are they expected to be all perfect, put their cares and burdens aside and meet every womanly need if not the women is "entitled" to divorce or labeling the man "abusive", "cruel" or whatever ?" I have looked for your thread FB2 and K told me you do not have one. I wanted to read about what you have recently experienced because I sensed and continue to sense a certain underlying negativity in your posts toward woman....which I am sure is only resentment toward your WAW. "I get the impression on this board that women are much more needy and if their needs aren't met then the man is not good enough" I agree with alot of what you post generally....this last one seems a tad strong.