Man Overboard

[mishka422]

They made a choice. They didnt fall overboard.. they jumped ship. There is a difference IMHO.

Ok, yes. Good way of putting it. They did choose, but we are responsible to an extent to not push them further out to sea. Kindness and compassion is necessary. That's my opinion at least. Not to the point of being a doormat, but to respect their choice as their own and leave them to face to consequences of it.

I think SMW is doing that whole-heartedly. Letting her DH wallow in the mess he has made of his family. No man with any kind of self-respect could face that for very long without trying to make some changes. Those changes won't necessarily translate to restoring the M, but it could be changes for the better within himself.

Mike - I now get what you were saying. I thought you were saying that people were just doing stuff to stir crud up, not that they were genuinely making an effort in their R using the example of something someone did here. Gotcha. Message heard. We are prone to acts of desperation sometimes, but I hope that anyone here will learn as much as possible but only employ what seems will reflect well on their own sitch.