Ah well then thats where we differ, because I do believe in turning the other cheek and I am maybe too passive, but to not do so in MY sitch, I would regard as "cutting my nose off to spite my face".. but in your case, you have to look at what you would be getting at the end of all of this and you have described your M yourself in ways which make us all wonder if its really worth it, as he has given you so little, sadly. But I dont agree about this respecting ourselves.. you could tell that to every person on the boards, then there would be noone left DBing if we were all rose up and say "I'm not putting up with this".. thats maybe a personal decision and not a DB principle! Personally though, I'm not sure DBing really works anymore.

But yes, Naej is right, we are just trying to offer help or different solutions for you. Or, give up hey. Either way, we support and love you !!