John,

My head tells me that we are done, my heart whilst not pining for W still holds out tiny hope which is why I did something like the puny gesture of giving W back the wedding ring instead of launching it into the distance. W's surley attitude this evening tells me that we are done. In terms of talking this weekend I'm not looking for W admit to anything I'm just looking to talk about separating.

The only assest we have is the house and I know W will not want to move out or sell, the market is bad so the if the house get on the market it would take a while to sell. But that's where I want to focus. If I wanted to force the issue I would have to move out but leave W with the house and the bills which I know she can't afford so that would force things to move on.

Anyway I'm still thinking about that.

John, Arthur, Kerry,

I think you guys have shown it's possible to get to a better place, I know I can get there but it's all about taking that first leap.

I'm still thinking about my next move but at the moment my head is winning over my heart.

thanks all for stopping by


Lanzo