Bluerain- I know I totally highjacked here but could you read my last post responding to yours (previous page)? I just saw H at a school event for my kids and I was prepared for him to be a little more stand offish after we connected so much yesterday. Well, he made a point of telling me about a celebrity friend of his who is advising him to just move forward, no guilt etc. and he is gonna have a drink with him because he's been through it (left his first wife for another woman) and I just couldn't deal. I finally told him I really can't hear about superstars who are giving him advice and helping him "move on"...he said "you know, let's just skip breakfast" (which he had told the kids we would have together), yes, punish me for setting any boundary, right? My son came up and said let's go to breakfast so we stuck with the plan and I told him that I respect that he has the right to do whatever he wants with his life but it is too hard for me to hear about this stuff. And, we moved on. But it was weird and honestly, I feel that he is falling into the "Hollywood" vortex and really frighteningly egomaniacal. My dad said he thinks he "doth protest too much" which I just said here yesterday but I don't know, it is like the value of marriage is just gone to him (except when he wants me), actually, it is me that has supported him to such an extent that he could get where he is today. Anyway, I would love your perspective.