Dear CL, I am very happy that you have discussed all this on a face to face level with the C. I think alot of us as you say think you have and do "put up" with far to much, but then we are not walking in your shoes or indeed are YOU. For myself I have never met a man who is so sensitive or dependant etc. so I have trouble understanding those kind of issues.I just see a kind and caring man being taken for granted continually and his kind and generous spirit being trod under foot. So maybe I shouldn't speak out. I do think you are improving your own issues and that has to be a good thing for any future relationships, which will come as evidenced by the new found flirting. Practise makes perfect, but yes I agree be careful. I worry that you might be attracted to a similar women to your wife, like women that are abused do,so this might be something to watch out for. Again I am concerned at the slowness of things whilst you grow, that the situation you live with will overtake and crush you before you have had a chance to do the growth you need to go for a D or separation. Hmmmm guess I am a worrier! Well done anyway for facing these fears and taking steps. Be a dull old world if we were all carbon copies. Not sure how anyone D in a non reactive manner,something I indeed will have to think about. I forget but do you have any family or were you an only child, not that that has much to do with anything but sometimes helps. Hope you enjoy some dancing this week end. (((())))