Thanks purple, wish I was stronger today. Have better days than this....... how did you find out about the other woman? How did you deal with it? tell me more about your sitch....... I am trying 180's and going dark but none of this seems to make any difference. He has said his love for me is dead and it will never come back. should we believe everything that is said and done by our WAW or not. He is certainly behaving as if there is nothing there. Thanks so much for your support, thank you