Not sure why 1, is a negative rap unless you see it as "oh God has my marriage in his hand therefore I do not need to do anything about me"-ie to look within and see how I contributed to the demise of my marriage OR I have to put up with being unhappy, abused, disrespected,in huge debt due to my spouses overspending for whatever reason,drink, op,... because I made vows and or entered into a sacrament.
I have to say I deplore both sentiments by and large. I do feel though that Pup's supporters are encouraging him to move on given the past history. I do not know it all so I cannot offer an opinion. I think Michele herself says that not all marriages can be saved. I also think that this thread is not typical and DB tactics are still the norm, or maybe not I don't read that many. We are told time and time again to GAL and that you can only change yourself so given the circumstances what DB advice do you think should be given?