So Amyc according to what I wrote, in your opinion, were we pretty messed up? I learned to live with it. Dont get me wrong, we had good times. BUT when he got mad, for the past few years, he would threaten me with divorce. I told him one day I would get tired of this....he beat me to it. Is it possible he was starting MLC as far back as 2003 or 4? I dont know. I do know that the girl he is marrying is an emotional mess. She would have to be. Losing a child is not something you take lightly, even though she does a good job covering it up. Her mom is the one that left the baby in the car, so she gives her daughter anything she wants, therefore my xh gets to enjoy it too. We struggled with money and I am sure he is liking it. I could be wrong. Who knows. I would however NOT trade places with him. I may be struggling, but I have GOD, and I am learning to be strong again.