mish, I just realised that none of my FiL's "kids", our generation meaning his children and nephews/nieces have good marriages. His son and his D are in trouble and both niece and nephew are divorced. His nephew married an American he met on the internet, moved to US, had 2 girls with her and now H told me they divorced and he moved to Veags, miles away from his kids... Something is really funny with the family... K