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Help her. You don't want to come off seeming like an @$$. If she was a really good friend, what would you do?


This your values (*uts) at stake here. I didn't and still don't believe in seperation (sure there are cases where it makes sense) but I was only half of the equation. If it was my friend I would counsel them to stay at home - for their M, kids and themselves.
My position was I will work on myself, my M, but seperation was not a option for me so I would not support it. Did not change a thing but my W knew exactly what, where, and why I stood on our M. It was not negotiable with me. I don't think it made me come off looking bad at all, I actually think I gained respect for my stance. I prayed over my W while she was sleeping to get her to change her mind. I had no control over her. The work was all about me.
It's her choice let her deal with it on her own. I understand how hard this is but once you realise how this is about working on your self with the added benefit your W might notice the easier it becomes. Stop worrying about what someone else thinks - you don't control it. Do what makes you a better man, father, husband and CIPA. Leave the door open, keep DBing, stick with your values and don't give up.
Strength and Honor


M22,H45,W45 S21/18D12
Retain faith that you will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties and at the same time confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.