Thanks for responding. My thread is on Newcomers. I messed up. I took her for granted, didn't appreciate her, and I was verbally and emotionally abusive at times. I'm working on me, reading and studying and trying to learn, and I'm also hoping that my wife and I can still have a future together. I did all the things initially that we shouldn't do..Crying, begging, pleading, etc. All that did was push her further away. Hard lessons. I wish I had known about this site when our separation was first happening. I want to learn, and get better and stronger. My wife, and our kids, have seen me be too weak and hurt for too long. I guess the pain of leaving outweighed the pain of staying. It knocked me right down to the ground.


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.