I went to bed early from a headache after H and I had emails arguments. It started out about bills and went on to other subjects. There's parts that make me really sad, like when he said that coming back to me is not an option... Below are the emails, please give me your views and comments.
Me: D21 wants to go see a counselor/psychiatrist because of all that's been going on but has no health insurance. You reassured D21 a year ago that you'd get her on a plan. What are you was going to do about D21's health and welfare, do you only care about OW? D21 does not like your choice of OW's welfare and future over hers and mine. You have no time or money for us, yet support OW when she gets laid off from her job, help OW start a business using your clout, calling in favors from friends & business associates. What have you done for D21 and I when we also recently were laid off?
H's response: save your breath... help yourself. you're just ungrateful for anything i do anyway..... i am looking for a cost-effective solution for D21's healthcare. Btw, she only contacts me when it's on your behest - so stop doing that so she can be her own person and not your lackey!
My response: You've know D21 all her life and YOU KNOW she would not contact anyone due to her shy, reserved personality - all her teacher have written about that on her report cards and meetings throughout her education. You are using some random statement that people who don't know her to say she should be contacting you. You are the parent. You were supposed to contact her - but you NEVER DID! You were NOT supposed to abandon her at most critical time. You didn't give her Xmas or birthday gifts for 2 years except a bottle of Tequila this Xmas! You are a coward! She is her own person - and she is depressed. WHY DON'T YOU CONTACT HER? YOU DON'T BECAUSE OF OW!!!
My response (I sent a 2nd email responding to the ungrateful comment): If you think I'm ungrateful for everything you do, then why don't you consider what you have done from my perspective? You abandoned me and our home entirely. You abandoned D21 when she was having major problems and said you no longer have a daughter.
If you really want to address issues then why don't you go see a marriage counselor as I had asked so many times in the nearly 2 years that this has been going on? It's because you're in a mid-life crisis and prefer to remain in your fantasyland and not go back to something you feel is a burden. You don't want to try and save something because you have no courage. You prefer your euphoria and think that going back would be going to a dark place. That's mid-life crisis.
H's response: you are correct. going back to you would indeed be a very dark place and is not an option.
My response: As for not coming back to me - you only won't because you're a coward. You never complained of anything for 30 years that we were together. You are in mid-life crisis and after you come out of it, you will see how you destroyed everything. You will regret what you have done but it will be too late.
H's response: look at yourself and stop trying to analyze me. you are the one who gave nothing and continues to give nothing.
My response: I gave my whole life to us and our family.
And since you said I was correct, you must be in going through mid-life crisis...
If you prefer to not have D21 contact you on my behest, then do what you should do. Anyways, D21 probably wouldn't contact you at all otherwise, you had abandoned her and put her though hell. She doesn't like where you are, who you're with, and who you are right now. Why don't you change all that for her?
H's response: whatever. she was much better when not living with you and not getting brainwashed everyday.
My response: She was out of the house for 2 months in the summer. Party-time, escape time. Before and after those 2 months, she had to see what you're doing to us. She contacts you on my behest about what? Well let's see, the electricity turn-off notice or the water turn-off notice, the late mortgage pmt, the cable having been turned off several times, etc. Or the washer flooding, or the plumbing? See, if she has to contact you about that, how can she think kindly of your actions in the first place?
If you really loved and cared about her, you wouldn't be trying to come up with these excuses. Excuses to again, abandon her and get your people to say it's okay. You don't really care about her - you care about what other people think of you. You really want her out of the picture don't you? That's why you're doing this.
Look, she had asked you to try to come back home in May 2008 and you came for a week but were in Germany the whole time. You were saying "I love you" on the phone to OW the day you left for Germany, and when you got back, you left immediately without a word. Then later, you tell D21 you had to take your things and leave. But that was all an act. Wasn't if fun for you and OW to be mean to me that time?
By the way, do you know why I know that's how you and OW have fun? First, I know you - and many times, I've told you that I didn't like that part of you that likes to gossip and laugh about others with other women. Second, that time I called OW, she was giggling and laughing and couldn't hardly say anything...you were there "getting at her" and "playing with her" while we were on the phone. That's the mean fun that you like, and it spurs you on to do more.
(Just some background for everyone, so many times during our marriage, whenever I was on the phone, H used to try to fondle or have sex with me and distract me. So I could tell that's what he was doing to the OW... Oh and yes, I called OW once to see if we could meet at Starbucks to talk, this was 10/08.)
H's response: you are an idiot. i am not responding to any more of these.
My response: Why don't you just explain your point of view instead of making vague statements? "Idiot" because of which part? I'm only pointing out what I see from your actions, you never discuss anything, only name call, like "idiot".
H's response: it doesnt matter what i say - you argue and invalidate any statement i ever made. you have no ability to see anything objectively.. now i am done for today.
My response: Maybe you're right, I do have a tendency to argue. You always said I was great at that. But I will try to see things objectively, so please, go ahead...
H's response: i am at work and used more time than i should have today. why dont you make a renewed effort to look for a job.
My response: Because of the problems of having two households, it would be better if you had a roommate (male) so that you don't have to feel like you need to pay for OW's bills. Please try to distance yourself from her. I know you don't like my saying that you should try to distance yourself from her, but if you had a roommate instead, you could still see OW. Just not have to support her in anyway. So please do that.
H's response: dont presume that you can tell me what to do. also do not presume that i will pay all your bills and that the tax return is your fun money. wtf!
just get the damn taxes sent out and get that f--ing money! also - keep looking for a job - i am not paying everything forever!
My response: Fun money? Right. I think you're thinking that D21 and I are living on the beach with our boyfriend.
The tax return will go to things I need for D21 and our house to since it's in a neglected condition. Known problems that I have to get estimates on:
termite treatment hardwood floor eaten by termites (replace boards or floor?) deck repaired or replace plumbing fixed back door replaced screens replaced on windows windows/or window seal replacement ventilation for heater area (you said you'd do it before winter but hadn't) kitchen appliances : oven/stove, dishwasher, microwave oven, refrigerator mattresses for beds sprinklers fixed lawn replaced
You're not paying for everything forever? You already stopped so that is why we are being hounded ande sued by collections agencies. You are ruining my credit. So that is why you need to do what is right - to fix that.
Like I said, I need you to get all our stuff in order to start a new life. So if you keep doing it this way, by having you pay for OW's welfare and fun times, then you're making mine and D21’s lives in a worse situation.
Distance yourself from her - get a male roommate. Get mine and D21's future established first. Live by yourself or with a roommate that will not depend on you for food, fun, trips, jewelry, etc. I don't have a boyfriend, so you don't need a girlfriend. That can come later for both of us after it's all settled.
Otherwise you will only make my situation and your daughter's situation worse.
And as for fun money, we haven't had a family vacation in years. We would like to go to Ireland, did you forget? We’re not gallivanting around like you are with your girlfriend. We haven't given boyfriends jewelry, trips, business start-up - at anyone's expense like you have.
H’s response: YOU dont have any money. GET some and then do with it what you will.
OK - whatever. I'm tired and need to focus on work.
M51, H49, D21 M 23yrs, T 28yrs 3/07 - OW Bomb 6/07 - move to MIL's; OW relocate 10/07 - OW2 Bomb 5/08 - secretly move to OW2's end/08 - secretly get beach apt w/OW2 2/09 I petition Legal Sep, not served yet