I know you're busy, and you also mentioned that you were leaving soon for a few days, but if you get a chance, can you pop in over on Thinker's thread on the Newcomer's board? There's a fascinating discussion going on over there about "being a man" vs. passively "giving space" to a wayward wife, and I think the group -- and esp. Thinker -- could benefit from hearing your perspective as the woman.