BBJ - what you wrote is very eye-opening for me as well. Heck I'm standing in the pumpkin patch for someone who has done similar things as your H (affair wise that is) plus my W has no interest in saying she still loves me or hopes we can work things out.

I'm sorry you are in the patch but at least you look like you are finding your way out. Thanks for writing the post and providing a wake up call for those of us who are a bit lost :-(.

S4H