Okay, so the saga continues. I'm no longer trying to DB, because I have just decided he's crazy and I'm getting off. Appearantly, the girl was jealous and upset because H was here tonight and not with her. His change of tune from our convo was because og "forced" him to call me and tell me we're done.

Ha,ha. Okay, so then appearantly they kept arguing so he calls me back again. He starts asking me these really strange questions like, what did I say to make you think we had a chance? When was the last time I kissed you? Ummmm... okay psycho, lets see... You told me you loved me and were all over me in my kitchen tonight. Then I hear, name of ow, and he hangs up. So, I call him back to find out what the hell is going on and she answers. I guess she was trying to make him ask these questions so that she could hear the answers. Yes, this is a teenage shinanigan because it involves one teenager and one man acting like a teenager.

So, og and I have a nice convo since she answered his phone. Obviously, he has been lying to both of us. She had no idea of course that he was still coming over here telling me he loved me and sleeping with me about once a week. So, I very honestly answered her questions, told her I was finished trying to do anything with him, and if she chose to pursue a relationship with him that she should know that he's been lying to both of us and has major issues with honesty. That's why we split up to start with.

Oh yes, he told her I was dating someone else, so it was okay for them to date. I cleared that up for her and told her I wasn't dating, I didn't have time for it, and I had two kids that I needed to help through this mess. No time for dating. She asked about him seeing my kids, so I also took this oportunity to tell her that they were just now making the adjustment to their parents living apart, so I do not feel that it is appropriate for them to be around her right now. She agreed. Appearantly she is a "child" ha, still is, of divorce, so she knows first hand. I told her that I did not have any annimocity toward her, because she is not the one that was married getting involved with someone else. We discussed the fact that he is a very confused man right now, and has lied to everyone. She said her eyes have been opened now. I told her that I answered her questions honestly, because at this point I have nothing to gain by lying to her. I am finished with this mess. I told her that I was too "old" (ha,ha) to be playing games like this and being lied to all of the time. That is why our marriage split to start with. I am just focused on helping my kids thorough this without causing too much damage.

So... I've never seen anyone post their convo with the ow
(og in my case) on here. I can't believe this happened, but when she answered the phone I figured I might as well speak to her honestly and have nothing to lose. Woman to woman, she is being maniupulated too. Wow. I wonder what he is going to do now. She may be young enough for him to convince her that I was lying to her. She may not. They may end up together, or he may end up alone.
I know we will not end up together. LOL She seemed like a nice young girl. Poor thing, she's getting a train wreck if she keeps him.

So, wow. All in all I feel relieved and like speaking to her was actually good for me. He's lied to everyone.

I will not initiate any contact with him. He can contact me for the kids and the child support. I will go back to the lawyer and get ready to file the D. I feel more at peace right now with this decision than I have this whole time. I have been keeping the door cracked for the hopes for my family. It's time to close it and lock it. She asked me why I kept the door open and kept seeing him, and I told her the truth. That we have a family and I felt like I had to give this every oportunity to work out before I tore my kid's family apart. She agreed. This is very surreal. All I have to say is wow.

Why would he even agree to call me and ask these stupid questions in front of her when he damn well knew the answers and that he was lying to her?????? Makes no sense. What is he thinking?


"Success is the sum of small efforts, repeated day in and day out."
Robert Collier

"One's best success often comes after their greatest disappointments."
Henry Ward Beecher

me 33, s 9, d 4