Thanks LG, it is really hard for me. We are so soon in the process of repairing the R, I don't want to make the wrong move. I do not know if you have read any of my history but in the past a main reason she wanted out of the M is because she thought I treated her like a sex slave, she is still emotionally dealing with that as she teared up in our c session together talking about it. I would have a scedule and if she didn't keep it I would be a bitch to be around the following day. All this but she never said a word about it, and it lead to the walk away. Again, I am 90 days into this, but I am considering, making a move like you are suggesting by just taking her ripping her clothes off and having my way with her.