Hi theoden,
I was thinking, would you be "reading" that part of the poem the way you did if you had not come across this "lovely" adventure?

What I am saying after reading your comment I guess, is that unfortunately, and speaking about me- this journey did cost me the loss of innocence...

I like the poem, I think it can be "translated" the way you read it but it can also be read as "be true to yourself and dont be afraid to be genuine and honest and embrace whatever life throws at you, use it to become better, stronger, truer".

I wouldnt want my H to stay with me if that wasnt his choice and will. I wouldnt want my H to look back and feel he wasted his life with me. You know?

But I do wish all those WAS found it in their hearts to fight for their Rs and Ms BEFORE they decided it wasnt what they wanted. I am afraid in most cases they follow an impulse and not their inner truth.

People give up easily, and that exactly what it is said here :

I want to know if you can sit with pain
mine or your own

without moving to hide it
or fade it
or fix it.


With bandaid OPs, new life, illusion, taking the easy way out

I want to know if you can live with failure
yours and mine
and still stand at the edge of the lake
and shout to the silver of the full moon,
"Yes."


I want to know if you will stand
in the centre of the fire
with me
and not shrink back.

Committement even when the going gets tough

BTW, I think most of "us" LBSs do/did/have done that:

I want to know if you can get up
after the night of grief and despair
weary and bruised to the bone
and do what needs to be done
to feed the children.


At least I have, literatelly and not so literatelly...
(forgive me for my English)
K


Me&H:42
S11&D10
Bomb 5/2007-Sep 11/2007
Reconc.November 2009