I can see how if it's a favor you may have to just take it, but eventually I would like to see a change in you.
You also didn't mention those books, have you read them by any chance?
Spellfire aka Mike
"Women do not like controlling men. They respect and are attracted to men who control themselves. They ultimately are repelled by men who allow themselves to be controlled." -S&A
No I haven't. I have read DB and DR though. I just haven't applied them well.
I guess I should check out those books though.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
That was still a pretty bad conversation. I mean, right off she blames you for her bad mood. It sounded again like you were trying to get her approval for moving with your friend. Honestly, I would have gone through hell rather than talk to a W like that.
But it's your life. You've just got to stop sounding so needy on her. It's even coming through on your posts.
M-43 W-40 2D - 9 and 5
Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet a new life.
Please do read those books Kevin. I know I recommend them a lot, but they really helped me a after having read MWD's stuff and learning that the only person I could truly change was me.
Spellfire aka Mike
"Women do not like controlling men. They respect and are attracted to men who control themselves. They ultimately are repelled by men who allow themselves to be controlled." -S&A
OR start to use the DB principles that you have read, KEV, but by your own admission, don't practice.
I also thought the conversation with your w was about you sniveling up to her for some scraps of approval which obviously did not work. At first, I did not feel she was putting her bad mood on you, or holding you accountable for it, but you assumed responsibility for it and then she let you keep the problem as if it was yours...what a dance you two do...
Surely you can re-purchase some materials (at her expense if she can't part with them) so you don't have to keep asking her. It puts you into such a weak position of need and being the student to the teacher, inferior to superior. If you KNOW you don't care about the M, go ahead and use her for the info.But if you do care how she views you, assume a different posture in your interactions if you MUST interact with her...on this.
Good luck,
( j )
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016
She is pretty much the only resource I have on this. I am also doing research on my own. Just trying to make the best use of my resources is all so I can get moving in the right direction and get my career back up and going.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
I feel you but the folks on this thread are right. It appears that you're being clingy and needy. Hey man, I know it hurts. It hurts a lot. But you have to be strong.
There are tons of resources you can use. You don't need your wife to do this for you or help you. You have the Internet and use the recruiters, that's there job to help you be a better candidate.
Me - 39 W - 39 D - 11 D - 8 S - 5 Served - 04/14/09 Temporary Court Orders - 04/27/09
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
I am definitely feeling like I am getting anxious to get my life going again though. Its probably going to take me 2 weeks to get back up to Dallas because I need to cover a few more things.
I talked to my kids again tonite. D7 asked me if I was coming home next week. I said no. She asked if I was coming home the week after that. Again I said no. She asked when I was coming home. I said in 10 weeks. She said 10 WEEKS? I said ya. She said ok. She said she just misses me. I said I miss her to.
I'm not telling them what my plans are right now incase something falls through. I want to be able to surprise my kids when I get back. I am thinking I will show up at their school to eat lunch with them and surprise them that way.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
I guess I need to get out and do something today. Not sure what though.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
study? Send out resumes? Work out? But yeah, something.
(( j ))
M: 57 H: 60 M: 35 yrs S30,D28,D19 H off to Alaska 2006 Recon 7/07- 8/08 *2016* X = "ALASKA 2.0" GROUND HOG DAY I File D 10/16 OW DIV 2/26/2018 X marries OW 5/2016