What's next???? The adventure continues!!!

[Mellenmack]

I am in no way advising pushing at all. If your daughter can hold back a little more, it might be beneficial. But. With that said. Nothing breaks a mother's heart like her baby crying cause she's hurt.

In my fog, my son crying would not have moved me. I love him dearly. But he is older and logical. The baby (d4) didn't cry for me. I would have only cried and still left. Not sure about that one. But once the fog lifted...I dunno. I think my crying 13 year old daughter might would have turned me around. I don't know about that. She just wanted everyone to be okay with everything she did (because then she could do it and not feel guilty). But, when neither of you complied, she maybe started to have second thoughts.

Dunno.

Keeping my figners crossed for you. Slow and steady wins the race.

Melissa

[AFWAW]

Mel,
You are my #1 girl on this board and #3 off this board--wife and D come first, sorry Hey, I knew D was going to feel some pain and the wife didn't believe it was going to be so. When I talked to the wife earlier on the phone she was laughing about what D had said. I KNOW SHE MISSES HER--the question is, does she miss me? I hope so. I know it hurts my wife's heart that D is mad at her and not talking to her a lot. I am looking forward to Friday and date with the wife. Oh, I miss her so and will do my best to make sure she wants to come home. OH, please, please, please come home!

[AFWAW]

Well, she just called. I didn't think she was going to and had almost given up. We talked for a little while about our days and then she started with the you deserve a good wife. I said I'm not interested in another wife. She said I know, if I saw you with another woman I would probably die. Ok, that's good, at least she would be jealous. I like that. She told me a lot about her apartment and how sparse it is and how she is enjoying the simple life and being bored. I wonder how long it's going to be before she wants to come home. I hope not long. I really miss having her here. I'm so lonely without her. We talked about where we are going tomorrow also. I am so glad she suggested this date. I hope that we have a good time and that she feels inclined to come home! Hope every one is having a good night.

[marriedCrazy]

More script..."you deserve better, yada yada yada..." I got the same crap. Which it's true; but it's babble designed to make them feel better about what they're doing. At least, that's how I interpreted it when my W said it.

Good luck on your date. Keep it light and fun. No R talks. Act like she's someone you want to date; but haven't developed a relationship with just yet.

[AFWAW]

Good tip, I was wondering how to act on the date. I'm actually pretty nervous. I've been married to her for 15+ years and I don't know what to do! LOL! Any more tips? Besides the obvious of opening doors, etc.

[marriedCrazy]

I can only reiterate that you must treat her like an acquaintenance at this point. Somehow, you have to will yourself to have fun and forget what's going on between the two of you right now.

I'd try to do something that you've never done before. You don't want to do something that reminds you of history, ya know?

[PortlandDad]

I would recommend doing the opposite of whatever it was that you would have done before!
Another thing; don't sweat it so much. The last thing you want to do is overthink it and come across as false, or forced. Just try to relax and act "as if" this was just another night out, even though inside you will be hanging on every word, and trying to interpret every look. (Try not too, though!)

I've crossing all my fingers for you!

[mindfull]

AFWAW - I have been reading along for quite awhile.

I feel like I would be the exact same way you are if/when I get this kind of response. From another who would be thrilled, CHILL OUT!! Maybe it's good that you can post here to get some of the excitement out! I swear I can see your tail wagging chaotically! LOL

The very best of luck to you.

Calm down. Dress hot. Maybe do something that doesn't involve a lot of talking... more just "being" together at first...

We're with ya!

[Mellenmack]

Hey.

Definitely do something ya'll haven't done before.

Then I have to ask this. Are you "keeping up with the Jones'" kind of guy? And is she "NOT keeping up with the Jones'" kind of girl?

I am discovering how narcissistic and self-righteous my husband is. I will post more tonight or tomorrow. But it's very NOT attractive and the further we go, the more I am NOT sure I want to stay married. And while some things do change, narcissism DOES not because they NEVER see that THEY do anything wrong.

So anyway. Just asking because of a few things you have said.

Have fun tonight if I don't talk to you before then!

Melissa

[AFWAW]

Mel,
We both were the keeping up with the Joneses type of people but that is the furthest thing from my mind now and she doens't seem to be that way either now. As far as my being narcissistic and self-righteous well, I can honestly say that isn't me. If anything, I don't think I'm good enough for anyone hence the reason for reading No More Mr Nice Guy and Hold on to Your N.U.T.S. I have always been too critical on myself and am learning that I don't have to be just so all the time. It was very stressful.

The wife and I are going out to a movie and a lunch date. This is way different as we didn't do this very often. Matter of fact, I's say maybe once a year we would go out without the kid(s). Wow, that's pretty sad now that I think about it. UGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!