After reading Bagheera's recent thread, I wanted to post something in response to this:
"They could probably point out who is wearing tight briefs or loose boxers, and even identify what the man's preferred penis 'resting position' is (to the left, right, or straight down). Again, this is all very subtle, secretive, and more 'background' observation than all the other things that are foremost in her mind. However, most women would never admit to 'penis watching,' so don't bother asking her."
I have to admit, this part just isn't me. I don't apparently fall in the high part of the bell curve on this. In fact, bottom line is this: I've never ever been in love with a penis before my current relationship. Never looked at them, never really wanted to, wasn't turned on by the sight of them, whether hard or soft. I WAS turned on by the thought of how it would feel to get ravaged and roughly taken, and part of that thought is imagining the feel of intercourse and penetration. But as for the sight of them, nah, never was into it.
But...my disclaimer here is, I'm kinda gay.
I am just now realizing that I was mostly gay sexually for most of my earlier life, yet I was mostly straight emotionally. I *wanted* to be straight sexually, but I've since realized that only a certain type of man can make me feel sexually straight - and in my actual experience, that has been only one man, my current partner.
Therefore, his is the only penis I have ever lusted after, looked at, admired, or worshipped....or even noticed for that matter! It is a great feeling, and I wish I had found this feeling within myself earlier. But it was worth the wait. In our case, my man gets the added benefit of me having NEVER worshipped a penis before, so he knows I belong all to him in that way. He has literally had zero competition in my past. And even though he is sometime insecure about my bi-sexuality, it also gives him reassurance to know I'm never going to be the girl who is chasing down some strange peen. This gives him comfort on a lot of levels and takes away any anxiety he may have had with regard to his own peen. (Although he is generally very self-assured anyway...so he didn't need much help to be fully self-assured about this).
As for the other things B had said on his recent thread, I totally agree that feeling his erection in the morning really makes me feel frisky and I love it! I do get that the erection isn't "for me", but after I start loving on it for a little while, sometimes it IS for me. Other times we just love to play games...like making a tent! LOL!
I truly am fascinated by his now, as B also said. The changes in size, shape, color, the way it works...all very fascinating as I've never gotten to know one initmately before now.
I would be interested in hearing from other gals about this...do you penis watch? Do you notice the package of strange men in a room full of men? Like B said, maybe you will not even admit this, even if asked by a friend....I'm just curious. (IE: I'm actually the one who is cataloging the boobs in the room, not the peens, so its hard for me to know what other women do).
I have to admit, this part just isn't me. I don't apparently fall in the high part of the bell curve on this.....(IE: I'm actually the one who is cataloging the boobs in the room, not the peens, so its hard for me to know what other women do).
In thinking about this further DQ, I suspect that you may fall on one side of the 'bell curve' and my wife on the other, with most women somewhere in the middle. I've noted before (and happily) that my wife is one of those women who finds penises attractive and arousing, and despite being bashful in other areas at times, she has never been bashful about touching and stimulating me there, once our sexual relationship began. Left to herself, one of her prefered forms of pornography (not a frequent indulgence, but occasional) is guy-on-guy: two men and two penises, and no distracting females about.
In public, she is VERY prim and proper, is never overtly sexual, flirthing, or provacative, and yet, after knowing her for 24 years and really coming to understand her brand of sexuality over the past couple of years, I know that she's quietly and subtiy watching and enjoying the guys -- including thier packages.
Of course, being a complex woman, she's probably noticed and catalogued all the women and their breasts too, gone from there to all the guys faces and bodies, and IF those are satisfactory, then covertly checked out his package, all while carrying on an active conversation with two other people.
Men are much simpler and linear: legs, to ass, to breasts, and finally to her face....which looks a little perturbed....
"I'm sorry, did you say something?"
[Woman just ahakes head head and finds another woman to talk to.]
-- B.
Me 50, W 45, M for 26 yrs S25, D23, S13, S10 20+ year SSM; recovery began Oct 2007
[stands up, wiping a tear from her eye] My name is LuckyGirl, and I am a penis watcher."
All, in unison: "We love you, LuckyGirl."
Hell yes, I watch the penis. Well, that is, I watch when the whole package interests me. The idiot corporate doofus... I don't even want to know that God gave him a penis.
And, yes. Please wash it. Stale is so gross. Grooming and shaving should be up to your woman. I don't care about that and prefer my man to be "au naturel," as if he isn't worrying about it too much.
And, yes. We don't mind when you're not hard. To hide it is a little disturbing... Like, what's the problem down there? Just stand tall and walk proud.
One more important point. Can you guys please stop farting all the time? Seriously. If you don't do it all day at work and spare the a$$holes who abuse you THERE, why do we have to hear it and smell it at home? It's not cute. It's not sexy. We hate it. Make it quiet and do it in the bathroom or something. Once in a while, no big deal. But, really. Every damn night??? [Disclaimer: Maybe if I was being sexed up just right I wouldn't get so annoyed at this. I have started looking away, closing my eyes, and just enduring until the noise is over. And, if it smells, I see red.]
Bagheera: You are AMAZING. Really. You should run workshops or something.
But seriously, you totally cracked me UP! It was so fun and refreshing to read your shameless peen-viewing point of view. LOL!
I'm still in the boob camp. Don't really notice the peens, but boobs? I never miss them. Big or small, I love them all. hee!
Let me tell you how hard and embarassing it was to be an adolescent in the girl's locker room. Kinda like being a gay youth in the men's locker room. I had to learn very early not to stare, as girls are walking everywhere naked, and if you stare you will immediately get labeled as a dyke. In my small town, being gay was unacceptable. Still never stopped me from checking out every naked boob there was! I just got real good at doing it out of the corner of my eye.
Put me in a men's locker room and yeah, I'll notice the shoulders, muscles, arms, nice legs, good butts (but only the good ones). But peens? Nah, won't even see 'em.
My own man's peen on the other hand....well, that one has me hooked. Never a moment goes by that I'm not willing and ready to take a look at that one!
Don't get me wrong. I notice any woman who is va-va-voom, too. Not in a "I want her" way, but in a "Good for her and I wish I looked like that" kind of way. And then one of my friends usually clues me in and tells me she had implants and work done. I'm always surprised by that. I just didn't realize how many women get stuff done.
I don't think I ever really thought about the penis watching thing very much until I read Bagheera's post. It is just a quick sweeping glance. If I can tell which way it is leaning, I feel this little "yesssssssss" like I won a prize or something. And, to think, I've never even nudge-nudged a friend and told them about it (which would be hilarious). It's only about my own indulgence.
LG - I get you. You are straight. I hear the same from other straight women. "Oh yeah, I totally check out women, too". But trust me, its not the same. That's why when you and I were talking about childhood slumber parties, I said "um yeah, but in my case, it was not innocent". It took me a very long time to really realize how STRAIGHT a straight girl is. Because I'm like "oh, so you check it out, but you don't want to get your mouth on that?" And they look at me and start to slowly back away. Right. You're straight. Me crooked.
LOL!
As for the peen noticing, I have heard gf's say similar things. One time a gf and I were in a meeting with some guy bosses. One of the bosses was tall, dark, and handsome. He was sitting next to my gf in the meeting and was apparently bouncing his knee (like a nervous thing). She told me later that all she could think of was the fact that if he was bouncing his knee, his thang must have been bouncing around, too, and it was distracting to her (again, he was tall, dark and handsome, so that means, I think?, that she was having some kinda sexual thought about him, too?) When she told me this, I thought it was odd. Who cares what his weenie is doing at all, at any time? And then I pictured her boobs naked.
Lucky Girl, you guys are a hoot! I like to look too. Funniest was a kid at a huge well-known public beach down South. Guy I was with pointed him out as he came out of the locker room. Seems he'd been stuffing paper products into his speedo. I don't know what he thought would happen when he went in the water... or when he came out LOL. Worse than the jokes about using a potato.
Penises are kinda fascinating. Fun to look at, a turn on to watch them rise to the occasion, fun to play with. I always liked the poke poke thing in my back when we were spooning at night. Probably intimidating for the older guy who isn't as firm anymore to know that. Always great to find it standing at attention when I came out of the bathroom ready to go. Intimacy is ideal. Connecting emotionally is ideal. The earth moving is ideal. But really, the whole idea is just so fun, playing like kids. No wonder they used to call it "whoopee". How do we get into such no-fun screwed up messes?
There have been a couple of times. tho, that I was in the "deep freeze" to avoid getting into trouble. I worked in places where there were way more men than women. Just kinda turned the whole thing off, the better to stay focused on the job.
Have you gotten your H some Beano pills? Beer, chips & hummus are a sure recipe for flatulence. Jayce
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Okay, where were all the women like this when I was in my early 20s?
Probably waiting for me to make the first move and I was too busy getting drunk and passing out in inappropriate places?
I did have a girl feel me up when I was 13. She just strolled right into the mens locker room with her girlfriends, came right up to me and cupped me as she said hello (I was dressed already btw). I think she was 15? Wow, talk about stirring lost memories lol.
Spellfire aka Mike
"Women do not like controlling men. They respect and are attracted to men who control themselves. They ultimately are repelled by men who allow themselves to be controlled." -S&A