guess it's like a boat with only one paddle, can't go forward if the other person doens't give it his/her all. I did it all, counseling, inv and separately, no amount of C could talk any sense into stbx as he clang to then ow (who later got sick of him and kicked him out). There was nothing I left undone to save my M, but he just refused to do any work and only thought of himself and of inmediate gratification.
You will win this battle by becoming a better person, for you, not for her , for YOU.
Be not afraid...I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten Joel2
30something 2kids survivor of S, MLC, A, D I have peace in my heart, at last.