GMAN, My opinion of machines is this; THEY SUCK!!! I mean that for both men and women!! Women have a misconception of free weights. They believe that if they lift hard they will look like a brute and unfemine and all of that. Truth is, free weights are the best way to look like a hard body bad to the bone chic!! LOL Ladies, the only way you will get big bulky muscles is if you consume a lot of lean protien. Building quality size is not about lifting, its DIET!!! Don't be afraid of free weights, they are your best friend in building your body!!! Keep up the good work GMAN!!!