Had our first 'real' conversation about anything since 2/21. Just focused on D(1).

Said I was "controlling" which is why she has been "controlling" of our D(1)...

Said I have never physically hurt D(1) but she is "worried" because I didn't do enough when we were married and thinks she isn't getting changed/etc. when she is with me.

Told her that she could "just ask" because I do keep a record of when I do.

She said I can't have visits except at m.i.l. house - which I won't do because of the things that have been done and said there that make me worry about the legal situation. (m.i.l. has said she'd testify to events she didn't witness because she believes W).

All in all, told her I didn't care if we were having a D, I just asked her to quit coming up with reasons to hate me. We needed to leave the past in the past and just focus on D(1)'s interests.

Asked if she'd like to go to parenting classes, counseling, something - she said she'd agree to C, but she doesn't really care about the details. I guess just to say she went and it "wasn't for her."

She looked drained, empty, etc. and seemed fairly talkative, at least more so than she has been. It didn't take much prodding to get her back into "everything is your fault!" mode, and honestly I did it on purpose today so that I could collect additional evidence.

Hard to DB when a child is involved...

Anyway, Sandi I hope you read my above post. I'm not angry - just focused on what I have to do now.


"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."