The whole possibility of divorce strikes a nerve with me, which is why I am advocating that Cinco lay his cards on the table directly with Mrs. Cinco....I don't want to see him and her end up divorced just because there was not clear enough communication for them to both know what is in each other's hearts.
Cinco at one time had a letter prepared to give her and this letter is what I keep referring to, because I know he hasn't given it to her yet.
But Ali...my feelings are hurt, too. I did not directly insult you by making it seem like you have no brain at all? I am sorry my post hurt your feelings but I still don't know why it did. I am also sorry if it sounded condescending, I do not have any thoughts of that nature in my head at all. I just love Cinco and want him to talk to his wife...and by "talking" to her I do not mean for him to "toss the LD person to the side" or anything of that sort at all.
I also love you and respect your journey....but my post and my view aren't valid, too? My journey through divorce can't help someone else try to avoid it, too?
Hey, wait a minute. What about the Circe de Soleil thing? [Still over here standing on my head, baffled.]
I'm just kidding, Ali, of course! We need some laughter on this thread.
I was going to say to DQ that I think her advice must have hit a raw LD nerve with Ali, but I wanted to wait for Ali to speak for herself. Like I wrote to Jayce last night, one can never fully know what it's like to be in another's shoes. Sometimes a nerve is hit soooo unintentionally.
We all want each other to succeed and be happy. Our intentions are to help each other, and we all know that. And, because this is so important to us, our reactions to feeling hurt are intense.
The whole possibility of divorce strikes a nerve with me, which is why I am advocating that Cinco lay his cards on the table directly with Mrs. Cinco....I don't want to see him and her end up divorced just because there was not clear enough communication for them to both know what is in each other's hearts.
Cinco at one time had a letter prepared to give her and this letter is what I keep referring to, because I know he hasn't given it to her yet.
But Ali...my feelings are hurt, too. I did not directly insult you by making it seem like you have no brain at all? I am sorry my post hurt your feelings but I still don't know why it did. I am also sorry if it sounded condescending, I do not have any thoughts of that nature in my head at all. I just love Cinco and want him to talk to his wife...and by "talking" to her I do not mean for him to "toss the LD person to the side" or anything of that sort at all.
I also love you and respect your journey....but my post and my view aren't valid, too? My journey through divorce can't help someone else try to avoid it, too?
I'm so confused, but I am hanging in there....
DQ
I exactly respect you too. I think you can post your thoughts all you want. I hate DIVORCE TOO~ If you remember I am re married. I dunno why it hurt me so much either DQ? It just did? I know you did not mean it like that. I really do. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I know you have been thru a lot too. Sorry if I offended. I am sorry. Love, Ali
DQ and Ali some of what both of you are saying is right.
I have NOT given Mrs. Cinco a dead-line of if we don't have x passion and y desire and z affection by such and such date I'm leaving. And what DQ is referring to is the letter that I drafted a while back and have never given to her. It was an ultimatum and I felt like it was my last resort.
Yes, May will have been a year but it is only *my* dead-line and I have seen some effort on her part over the year. To be fair I would have to give her the letter with a year from the date of giving it to her.
Much of what Ali says about the pressure that Mrs. Cinco feels from me is true. She has said to give her time she can't light her flame again overnight. She even said yesterday, "Nothing I do is ever good enough for you. No matter what I do it will never be good enough." I did tell her that it is so much better now. I want this with you W.
OK and I'm with Lucky. How does this handstand 69 thing work? Can you draw a diagram with stick figures using text or something?
Ahahahahaha (I know, I know... you are not sposed to lol at your own jokes)
Spellfire aka Mike
"Women do not like controlling men. They respect and are attracted to men who control themselves. They ultimately are repelled by men who allow themselves to be controlled." -S&A
Ahahahahaha (I know, I know... you are not sposed to lol at your own jokes)
OH my Word. I am ROTFLMAO. You are HILARIOUS. It was actually sexy when we did it and with the stick figures? It looks funny as hell. Thanks Mike I needed to laugh, What would I do w/o you guys? Ali
Can you draw a diagram with stick figures using text or something?
~5