I was only half serious when I posted that comment but I'm glad I did now. Some insightful information...... thanx.
Seems like there could/should be some kind of "in between". I hate feeling like a beggar or emotional slave and think some of these ideas would make me feel like that. I'm more than willing to give and even grovel sometimes but not as a regular pattern/the norm. This sure seems hard sometimes - it's such a process - and a delicate one at that. The *zone* is narrow and moves.
Mike - sorry if Lucky interpreted you posted the bluntness as I think she might have.