Will do that. She has no legal rights to them, just not sure how best to approach that so that she doesn't feel like I'm using them to hurt her, because I'm not. I just want what is best for them.

I also started wearing my wedding ring again Sunday for the first time since confirming OM. I'm not sure why I chose to do so... whether I feel faithful to the marriage, or what my goal is. I just felt the urge to wear it, and I'm sure it'll come off and on a few more times as I continue along the roller coaster of emotions.

I asked W's brother some questions about whether they had any thoughts/opinions on me fighting for the marriage or counseling, but they are nonresponsive on those issues. Seems like they want to keep circling the wagons to "protect" W behind her lawyer instead of focusing on the fact that she's making decisions which have long-reaching consequences in the lives of my S(8),S(7), and D(1).

It is hard not having too many folks to talk to... I moved about 300 miles from any blood relatives, so my In-laws were pretty much the only family I had here.

Was glad to have found this place so that I could validate what I was doing... was taking DB steps based on common sense from my last D without even knowing what DBing was. Haven't begged, pleaded, cried, or anything since this started.


"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."