I have a lot to say, much more has happened but I don't have the words for it right now. Will check in later and respond to some of the questions.

Silver and SO2, Thanks for the suggested reading, will get it this weekend - though I am not certain I like Dobson's philos from what I remember in the past - but will look at it.

Silver - thanks for suggesting that there is another viewpoint on the rings - it certainly makes sense for my H and his behavior.

SO2,- about the church - not to offend anyone but he is converting to RC - he has lied to them about his past and current M situation - so things are muddied there. A friend at
work is RC and very devoted - said she felt the RC was making up a lot of rules as they go lately and she has been dissappointed in the church for doing so - but her comment was more about the fact that she sees my H putting all his energy into this conversion rather than into working on our M. She also knows that he is lying to the priests and thinks it is happened because they are doing their job of finding out what is really going on in his life especially since I don't go to church with him, and they know I am not interested in conversion with him.
I see her point because when he tried to get into other RC closer to my home - they found out a lot and made it hard on him but did not deny him.

Pearl - Thanks for the advice about getting off the roller coaster - I was using that analogy earlier while you were gone. See how connected we all get?

Lemonsnap - Welcome, I always appreciate someone taking the time to stop by and say hi and offer their support. It is what keeps me and I assume all of us going.

Will fill you all in later. I need some chill time.


Me late 50's
M 9/06
D 4/11