is w still against going anywhere with you without the kids as back up?

I would say "Yes."

could you try to include some wind down time for her that includes you?

Since W does work as much as she does, she really does treasure the time that she can spend with the kids. And in all honesty, LL - W is really not a bad person or mother. I just get the sense that W is trapped in a big old cheeseless tunnel and can't figure out that the cheese has moved elsewhere.

well then asside from it being benificial for you personally to go...how do you perceive it effecting your r with w? how do you suppose she will act when you come home from the weekend?

I suppose her reaction would be not any different than it has been - very indifferent on her part. How it would affect the R if I do go? W did say a couple of months ago that since I am not working right now, it would be a perfect opportunity for me to get away for a few days. I don't really want to go down to FL and visit my family right now - I would be too tempted to talk about our R problems. My parents and sisters have a very good R with W and I don't want to jeopardize that - it would be extremely unfair to her, them and me.

I have the strong sense that we will have to talk about it - W's medical plan does not cover our current C so she wants to find another one. C is going to insist on a wrap-up session with us - something that I am going to push for before the DB weekend happens. That way W will have a safe place to air her views - as will I...


Bob