Thanks everyone for all the wise words and support. I'm going through the thread, taking notes and trying to come up with some goals and plans of action.

Sat with H on Tuesday night and had a long talk about kids and where we began to fall apart (H said kids were where the M started to go downhill, so thought I'd exlpore) Biggest bit of info I got from him is that he is looking forward to living in his apartment so he can bond more with the kids--one on one time. Tried to offer him time with just the kids and activites, that I'd step back and he can do it with them, he said, no, you need to be involved, I can't always make things with work.

Also, that the biggest thing for him is the big, giant empty feeling he has inside him.

Last night he asked me, are we going to sit down with your parents while they are here and talk with them. I said "no", not other explanation, and he just said okay. I don't want to do it. I don't need them at the moment for support, I think it would hurt them deeply and I want to avoid that for as long as I can. When the moving van pulls up and carts off his stuff, then I will tell them.

Working on the Disney trip, no idea if he is going to join me. Heck, I don't even know if he is going to join us next week for our annual trip to the PSU homecoming game next weekend. He is still talking a mid-October move out to the new place.

Jackie