Cinco:

S&A is so spot on. My B&N didn't have NMMNG in stock, so I ordered it online and then read the website (nomoremrniceguy.com) and also lurked on their boards. It is amazing. My husband is SUCH the "nice guy" and is reading the book and is still resisting accepting the fact. Good God.

The example S&A gave about the approach to initiating? I think I'd faint if my husband ever found his raw sexuality and found the bravery to say that. It is awesome. Of course, it's all in the delivery, too. And, your wife has to have a basic attraction for you. So many factors at play, no wonder it's scary for men.

Ali: I assume what you wrote is in Passionate Marriage. The part about backing down and settling just reinforces that it's OK for them not to try... BAM! That is good. And, that's why this has to be my last time I approach this, do or die.

Cheers to Cinco finding his inner "bad guy"!!!

Lucky