Hi Pooh and Puppy,

Yep, our H's have tuned us out. Just today when I was talking to my H about work he made mention that I need to give my presentation like when I calm down after our fight-- that I argue and then come and talk to him calmly. Lightbulb for me was that all the argument he was just tuning out thinking that I will calm down. God I hope I remember this the next time I blow up to him. And yes, I think I have SAID too much and done too little. So this week I did make some moves for myself. I separated our car insurance and turned off 2 credit cards that we share jointly. I was tired of having to run after H for payments and since he has been gone, he has been so irresponsible with his credit cards. Buying all kinds of [censored] for him, OW, and her kids. So I made the move and it felt GOOD. Funny thing is that I didn't tell H at first and then he called wanting to use one of the cc and then I dropped the bomb. He was actually pissed off saying that I'm doing all these things and he's gonna start to do things back. I asked him if there's more he has in store. \:\)

Puppy, good question. I do want my M back and no I don't want to be in limbo or to even be DB. Your question though made me wonder what else I should be doing other than DB. Do you think I have been giving H the impression that I'm ok with the S. I'm really not. And sometimes yes I don't know if I want the M b/c I sometimes feel hopeless like H is never going to give up OW and I DON'T want the M with her in it. Yes, I'm a total mess.

By the way, one other question for you Puppy or anyone else. So I gave my H the impression that I'm talking to another guy. I told him though that no sex is involved but he is a nice guy and we're just getting to know each other. I even bought myself roses when I knew H was going to stop by and he saw them and was really jealous. He told his cousin that he is hurt. Yes, can you believe that. My reason for making this up is that I think my H thinks that I'm old faithful. We've been together since high school and as you can tell he has totally taken me for granted. Now I sometimes second guess myself if the "OM" was a mistake. But I just can't stand H thinking that I am waiting around for him. What do you think? I have made sure that I don't throw "OM" in his face so that its seems fault and like revenge. Although, I've been enjoying H bring up OM with jealousy. Bad idea? What do you think. Thx.

Yes, I know we women with all our words and no action. But I learning hopefully. \:\)